God is a very powerful placebo.
Now hold on just a minute, you are saying. A placebo? No, God is way more than that. Without God, I would not have achieved what I have achieved in my life. I would not have overcome the personal difficulties in my life, bettered myself personally, overcome various sins, addictions and obstacles. I would not have reached the point in my life, having achieved the success I have achieved without God!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s what every theist says. Anyone who ever believed in a god claims these exact benefits, whether they are Christians, Muslims or whatever. No matter what denomination. Whether they are part of a cult or a mainstream church. They all claim the same advantages and privileges of their relationship with God. They all claim that God answer their prayers and helps them.
None of them believe they are worshiping false or imaginary gods, although every Christian knows that most are. When you look at other religions, or when you look down on other denominations and fringe Christian groups, you point the finger and think “That person is worshiping a false god.” Or “their god is imaginary”. Yet, those exact same people are insistent that their gods do for them what your god does for you!
Why is that?
Because a belief in god is a PLACEBO! Whether your god is real or whether it is fake or imaginary you will gain EXACTLY the same benefits as those who worship false or imaginary gods. You will also achieve exactly the same things that ATHEISTS do without the need for gods. YES, even atheists overcome obstacles, better themselves as people, achieve goals etc etc, and they do it all without the need for the god placebo. So a real god is clearly not needed.
So why do you believe you are any different?
Just think about what you can gain from a belief in god:
Every single one of the above things can be gained by belief in a god whether that god is real or not!
You may say, “Oh but I know my God is real. He’s more than just a placebo”. But you are just like EVERY OTHER believer of ANY OTHER god! Take a look at this chart:
Assuming that there are real gods, there are two types of theists (god believers). Theist A are those who worship real gods and Theist B who worship false or imaginary gods. Yet both groups insist that their god does those things mentioned for them. They are adamant! Both insist their gods are real and both are adamant that their gods are not false or imaginary. Yet they get the same benefits!
So what does that tell us? What it tells us is that in all likelihood they are achieving these things themselves without any gods... just like atheists and that their beliefs are acting as a placebo, ie giving them self-belief, motivation, empowered thinking and determination.
Why should anyone believe you are special when it comes to getting benefits from some all-powerful god?
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T (Friday, 13 November 2020 23:25)
Nope. What's wrong here is that You assume God only helps those who worship the correct opinions about Him. And all Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) in a sense worship the same monotheistic God. But every monotheistic religion and it's denominations says what is true about that same God and which words and books lie about Him, or which interpretation is correct, that others were lied to by demons. So these are not "different Gods", it's the same God, but people argue about who was lied to by demons and who got the real message.
God helps everyone, not only His "correct" worshipers:
Matthew 5
45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
God in all the versions from Abrahamic religions wants people to turn to Him, so He could help in all religions or even among Pagans, as long as the person is doing something that in the end will lead that person to turn. So if God wants good things to happen and you pray for good things to Him, even if You do many things wrong, but the prayer is for a good thing, it is theoretically possible for God to help even those who don't follow the correct opinion about who He is. If God is Love, He loves everyone, even those who stray. And if He is All knowing He knows how to "predict chess infinite moves forward" and will do everything possible so that the most number of people turn.
Recker (Wednesday, 25 November 2020 16:28)
What I assume is there are no gods and that men have created them and given them attributes. They have dictated the rules of what a god does or doesn't do. There's a lot of cherry picking going on.
You talk about just Abrahamic religions, but I include all the thousands of religions and gods out there. Each one of them believes their god is real and does things for them. But the one thing they all have in common is that they can't show that there is any god doing anything for anyone.